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Is it worth it?

Posted by Psycosis91 Oct. 13, 2008 @ 8:27 AM EDT

My last couple of main flash movies (Thwomps the Movie, Spittin' Narcissism, Awesome Guy and to an extent, Two Slices Of Pie and 1up-Pursuit) all had a personal goal.

With Thwomps The Movie it was to try a develop sprite characters and give them my own backstory. And to keep a movie interesting for a long period of time. I feel I achieved the goal, it's my most popular movie to date.

With Spittin' Narcissism it was just to make a flash movie that was similiar to a hip hop movie video, with quick camera movements and keep it interesting from when the beat starts to when it ends. I still watch this movie and love it, it's probably the only movie I have made that I can still stand watching from start to finish.

Awesome Guy was to make an interesting character without any dialouge. So the user knows what Awesome Guy is like and how he'd react to different situations. My design was originally based on Kirby from the Kirby anime Hoshi No Kaabii (Kirby of the Stars) but then I changed it so Awesome Guy is not the brave type, he's afriad of confrontation and of any companionship.

1up Pursuit wa-, oh god damn it guys, I made this in 2 days and it got #2 of all time, what the hell is wrong with you.

The reaction to 1up Pursuit was so annoying to me, it was so overrated (it still is) to a point where I'm starting to question my efforts to make interesting sprite movies, is it worth it?

I hate it when the wrong movies get popular. I'm not proud of 1up Pursuit, yet it's sonehow extremely popular, and for a while had a better score than a movie I spent 8 months making. I'm proud of Two Slices of Pie, yet it no-one noticed it, it faded away. When the wrong movies get popular, your credibility is shot. If all my sloppy sprite movies got popular no-one would take me seriously, I'd just be 'that sprite animator', I'd be the reason for the sprite movie hate. Or even worse people accuse me of just resting on my so called 'fame'. Someone reviewed Spittin' Narcissism saying it's obvious I'm not trying anymore, I'm just resting on the popularity of Thwomps The Movie. People expecting every movie you make to be better than the previous, despite the time put into it.

Sure I'd love to make a Thwomps the Movie 2, I'd love to take part in this scary halloween competition using a Mario sprite movie. They'd be great challenges and ones I wouldn't back down from. But is it worth it, knowing that I could make a stupid movie in 2 days, and it'll get more praise than anything I put actual effort into.

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Oct. 13, 2008 | 8:45 AM Randomize says:

no.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 8:46 AM MAYORMCHEESE says:

people seem to have one gigantic boner for that mario chases 1up thing going on

only one i've really liked so far is callum's but i haven't seen your's yet


Oct. 13, 2008 | 8:56 AM secondstamp says:

I agree with you. I've spent years on a movie trying to make it just right for everyone to enjoy. Putting details in backgrounds, making loads of customs sprites, and I think that effort belongs there.

To me, sprite movies are just as artistic as drawn movies here. It's called a parody, an alternate way to give everyone a different feel to a videogame. However, this has been seriously "raped" by the liked of different Flash animations arround.

But no, it's not the animators fault. Alvin Earthworm has a succesful series, and his movies kick major ass. But as we try to make our own original attempts at humor, action and so on, only "OMGMARIOBALLZZZ" seems to get noticed.

My entry for this contest; "The Life-Shroom Sprint" went by almost unnoticed. Maybe I should have named it "Mario does crazy shit and fights Shadow" and people would have 5'd it without even watching.

It's not our fault for making uninteresting media, it is in fact the user's fault for being blind over constructive art we try to present.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:02 AM MAYORMCHEESE says:

secondstamp dont be discouraged PLEASE make more custom'd movies like the life shroom sprint cause oh my g*d i haven't seen a sprite movie that good in a while


Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:03 AM efkimo says:

How about you put effort into something that isn't a sprite movie?

Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:04 AM Psycosis91 responds:

Why?


Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:12 AM L3pra says:

Sprites are cool. I've seen all your movies and were fine. But maybe you can do your own sprites or try a new style, to improve even more. Good luck!


Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:18 AM secondstamp says:

I'm unsure if making a sprite movie with effort will do any good here. Life Shroom Sprint didn't have much effort put into it at all, if I recall


Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:39 AM Dylawrence says:

Jeez... You know, if you really think that ratings and praise are the only things worth making animations for, than I'll say it's not worth it.

But for me... I love accomplishing a movie just for the effort and dedication, they are something to look back on, like a photo. That alone is worth it to me!


Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:49 AM DocSprite says:

Personally, I loved 1up Pursuit. ut I agree with you, it didn't deserve such a high placement on NG. However, I think you shold be pround of it, contrary to your current feelings, even with years of practice, I would be hard pressed to make a sprite movie as good as that in only 2 days.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 9:57 AM Razorshardz says:

:[

>.>


Oct. 13, 2008 | 10:13 AM ElMicha says:

I don't expect any improvements. I don't expect you to keep on making more movies, or ot rest on what you got. I don't expect your work to be worth it, or not worth it.

The only thing i expect is your submissions (made, or not yet made) amuse me.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 10:26 AM IX-Demyx says:

LOL YOU ARE FUNNEY


Oct. 13, 2008 | 10:54 AM Wonchop says:

I know the feeling. *coughGotWiicough*


Oct. 13, 2008 | 11:41 AM mariofan220 says:

personally, I think you should be proud of all your movies, even if some of them took long than others. Maybe the 1-up Pursuit shouldn't of gotten such a good score, but it did, so you should be proud of that.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 11:42 AM Kotlol says:

Whatever you do. It will be great. Sprites are your thing dude. Like it matters people hate sprite movies. People hate gay jokes, people hate newgrounds series with no humor in them. People hate music videos. People hate orginal things. People hate this and that but others love it.

Its called being an artist. You make your art for fun and try to make people understand yourself. Youre not a fame maker. You are a famous sprite animator who just needs to relax and do what they like.

Screw the rants! ITS YOUR MOVIES! You can do ignore reviews or not.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 12:07 PM Wiiporter says:

Make a sprite movie with your own characters just to see what happens


Oct. 13, 2008 | 12:23 PM TwinGemini says:

You should check out Rina-chan's latest news entry. She and a bunch of animators, both sprite and original, came up with this documetary about the popularity of sprite movies on Newgrounds. I think you may like what you hear.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 12:39 PM Nose-army says:

I definetely know that feeling. I have a sprite movie that I spent 1 day on that right now has a higher score than a fbf movie I spent a month on. Sprite movies are great for NG it seems, but they'll get you nowhere if you actually want to get into real animation for a job.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 1:24 PM Emanhattan says:

I discovered somehting like that recently too. my non-sprite movies are very popular compared tomy non-sprite stuff.

Thats what Ive been trying to tell MANY people around. not gonna say names because It will win me a lot of enemies.

I believe you must feel pretty confused at the moment. dont worry... if it makes yu feel better it will go down in time???

the voting system in ng does not work at all.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 1:28 PM Emanhattan says:

like my partner nic just said, yes. quit sprtes because I ant to animate for real, and lets face it, if you want to truly grow your skills you hae to try new stuff.

Sprtes are overrated tho but its not our fault. its the audience´s fault.

thats the reason why awesome movies and hentai movies get like 400,000 views and 4.29 as score or so.

seriusly... the interent is like.. the worse audience ever :(


Oct. 13, 2008 | 1:44 PM FleckoGold says:

I dunno if this is applies here, but I've noticed that when I take my time on certain projects, they end up lacking something that everyone enjoys. Likewise, if I have a deadline to meet and I have to rush through it, I make some of my best praised work. (Aladdin 3150 took more time than most, but I still had to rush through it in full panic mode cuz I knew I would barely miss the deadline)

I feel that MindChamber came across this also when he made "With My Mind's Madness". He said he spent a week on it, and that thing was epic in my eyes.

So there is something to learn from this (though I'm still pondering on what that might be), but it doesn't mean that you should completely give up on things that you want to take your time on. Even if they don't get as much praise, people who have just viewed your work can look back at all your other stuff and say "Wow, this one was good, I dunno why this wasn't more popular" and "This guy sure can show variety in his work", making that flash a sort of 'lost gem'. And, personally, I much more enjoy reading reviews over those flashes, because it separates my viewers from may fans.

The important thing is to never NOT tell a story, cuz you are a storyteller and telling stories is what you do; You'll be surprised who might like it.

-Flecko-


Oct. 13, 2008 | 2:10 PM JonBro says:

It's worth it, Psycosis.

I was going to write a huge comment here, but when I read Flecko's comment, I realized there was nothing more to be said. He pretty much nailed it.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 3:22 PM Roaltyx says:

Well I liked two slices of pie...


Oct. 13, 2008 | 3:23 PM NGSolidier12 says:

I think they're great. BTW I rated Two Slices of Pie a 5 when it first came out.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 3:26 PM sontuk says:

Yup


Oct. 13, 2008 | 3:52 PM lenkobiscuit says:

"To me, sprite movies are just as artistic as drawn movies here. "

Pfffffffhahahahahahahaha

Funniest thing I've ever read on Newgrounds


Oct. 13, 2008 | 7:07 PM BazookaJack says:

no.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 7:13 PM Zach-The-Hedgehog says:

The fact, is people like funny stuff more, then a hole storyline
in my point of view :/


Oct. 13, 2008 | 7:24 PM FightingSeraph says:

I don't mind video game parodies and sprite movies as long as they are inventive and fun to watch. However, that doesn't mean that original, hand-drawn ones aren't good (What can I say, I'm a pretty open guy). I vote on a movie based on actual quality, not on how the creator made it.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 8:07 PM pontyfaxjr says:

quit being an emo, i love your movies, and thats reason enough to keep making them. youre an inspiration sir!


Oct. 13, 2008 | 8:37 PM Wazaraku says:

I can't completelly agree with pontyfaxjr but he got a little point, but I will say:

"quit being an emo, YOU love your movies?, THEN thats reason enough to keep making them. BESIDES youre an inspiration sir!"

Youre kinda right that the 1-UP pursuit and the all 1-UP thing is overrated but yet is a good random funny thing that people can laugh without centring to much, but theres this little thing that make me lol more: Remembering that THAT Mario was "Psycosis style" Mario, one that make my ROFL at Thwomps: The movie. So you make little details that make people find it interesting.

Youre complaining cos not many people talk about "Two Slices of Pie"? (which is awesome like is spiritual-prequel) but thats ART man. In art only few people can see the good in something that you put your effort, others are in here only searching for lol (in my case i do both) but dont complain for that something that you do did have enough praise compared to other "more silly" thing you do, there's always some people that will know how much you put in make something and find it worth it

sorry if you dont understand very well my point i can't write english properly and im better to talk things :P

BTW: according to me the most important of doing something is that you want to do it and enjoy it doing it... do you?


Oct. 13, 2008 | 8:42 PM ajgourlie says:

SUCK MY DICK YOU GAY ASSHOLE


Oct. 13, 2008 | 10:03 PM Emanhattan says:

THERE IS a lot of debate in newgrounds about this overrated made in 2 days movies.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 10:09 PM ColonelNutsack says:

If people like what you make, regardless of how much time and effort are put into it, why worry?
People are going to enjoy your work regardless because it entertains them, and that's all that really matters, right?

It doesn't mean you shouldn't work hard and put in a lot of time on your flash. It just means you have talent and the ability to entertain easily.

I don't know what else to say. Just keep up the great work.


Oct. 13, 2008 | 11:50 PM Josh-B says:

Mostly I think if you try to make something really epic and spend lots of time on, you are usually disappointed by the score. Compared to something you make in a few days just for fun. So, I guess you shouldn't try to expect something that is worked on hard is necessarily liked the most. Just look at your movies as something you do for fun and that some just happen to take longer to make.


Oct. 14, 2008 | 12:14 AM ThePigeonMaster says:

Yes, I know what you mean. That has happened to me too...

Also, fuck the people that say your movies suck for any reason.
As long you make them because you like it, it's great.

"seriusly... the interent is like.. the worse audience ever :("

Yes, it is :(


Oct. 14, 2008 | 12:24 PM JonBro says:

It doesn't matter how much effort you may or may not put into a Flash, so long as people find it entertaining. Ignore the fact that 1-up Pursuit was made in two days. The response was awesome, and a lot of people liked it a whole lot. Knowing that alone should make you happy.


Oct. 18, 2008 | 10:07 AM 6th-sage says:

TWHOMPS TWHOMPS TWHOMPS!!! MAKE A 2ND MOVIE!!! THAT WOULD BE SO SUPER!!! But don't make it in two days. lol


Oct. 20, 2008 | 7:01 PM gnr67 says:

cool man. I lo


Oct. 22, 2008 | 4:39 AM froggy12 says:

the 1-up persuit is stupid cuz mario dies a horrible way .
characters that are dieing with an gigantic thorn reminds me of stick movies where people only want a lot of fight and dieing .
but violence isnt well fights are k but dieing

ps. do you kile salmon k and slice of pie are the best with only a few movement sprites you can make something awsome

srry about my crappy english

froggy12

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